To Believe means to Obey John 3:16

An excerpt from http://www.jesuswordsonly.com/images/stories/Salvation/John%203%2016.pdf

John 3:16:Obeying Unto Christ Should Save?

Introduction

When the English translations of the Greek New Tes- tament were made in the 1526-1611 period, the “difficult Greek in which the New Testament is written…still held mys- teries for” English scholars. (Nicolson: 224.) One of those mysteries was the Greek word pisteuo in John 3:16. In over 200 instances of pisteuo in the New Testament, not once did the King James Bible render it as obey. (See Strong’s Concor- dance.) However, scholars now realize obey was a common meaning of pisteuo in ancient Greek. Obey certainly was the meaning of pisteuo in John 3:36 (see page 448). Yet, this obe- dience salvation formula is identically repeated in John 3:16.

Besides John 3:36 helping, one can more easily accept pisteou means obeys in John 3:16 when one looks at Apostle John’s many quotes of Jesus about obedience. Jesus in John 8:51 says “whoever keeps on obeying (tereo) My Teaching

should never ever die.”1 In John 15:1-10, Jesus says a “branch in me” that does not “bear fruit” is “taken away,”

“cut off from the vine,” thrown “outside and burned.” 2 John likewise quoted Jesus saying in total accord:

Marvel not at this: for the hour is coming, in the which all that are in the graves shall hear his voice, And shall come forth; they that have done good [things], unto the resurrection of life; and they that have done evil [things], unto the resurrection of damnation. (John 5:28-29 KJV).

For the rest of this fine article click the link at the top…

Suffice to say that the Paulinists love to quote John 3:16 in order support the faith only doctrine of Paul using Jn 3:16 as their proof text that Yahshua taught the same as Paul, which is ludicrous at best.

‘…that whosever obeys Him should not perish, but have everlasting life.’

In this rendering of John 3:16 it is more than apparent that the salvation that Yahshua taught is completely predicated upon obedience to His teachings.  Something that Paul says in 2 Cor 5:16 is also now null and void.

2 Cor 5:16 is easily swallowed by those born of Paul seeing as how Paul claims to be their father thru his spurious and apostate gospel.

However for those who are actually born from above via the Word of Truth that is sown in them this defining of the original Greek word ‘Pisteuo’ meaning ‘to obey’ as opposed to the passive ‘believe’ or faith only’ is simply verification of what they already knew instinctively.

This is a bit off topic, but folks the lines are being drawn even as it was in the days of Elijah when the prophets of Baal came out to contest Elijah.  What did Elijah say?  ‘How long halt ye between two opinions, if YHVH be God then serve Him, if Baal then serve him!

As it was then, so it is now.  Nobody knows the numbers of this very small remnant that have come out of Pauline anti-christ, but again suffice to say maybe a half a million or more as opposed to nearly 800,000,000 million that follow Paul.  In rounded off numbers that is about 0.000625 percent of the whole.  Count yourself exceedingly blessed if you are one of this infinitesimal remnant who Obey the Commandments of God and have the testimony of Yahshua the Messiah.

Truly Yahshua said ‘will the Son of Man find faith when comes?’

21 comments

  • Saved means we received, accept, and commit to live in the mindfulness/aletheia of Holy Consciousness/hagios pneuma. John 14:26
    Yahuahshua came to teach the way of mindfulness/aletheia. John 18:37
    We worship in consciousness/pneuma and mindfulness/aletheia. John 4:24
    We learn from the consciousness/pneuma of/ho mindfulness/aletheia. John 14:26/John 16:13
    Knowing/ginosko gained from mindfulness/aletheia frees/eleutheroo us from bondage to unconsciousness. John 8:32
    We are known as those that care/agape for one another. John 13:35
    We are perfectly One/teleioo heis. John 17:23

  • Mishaya, I’m grateful for this post. and I agree with what you said here. Satan has a movement going on online and in churches, “Lordship Salvationists” vs. “Easy Believers.” I’ve taken quite a beating by those who subscribe to the latter belief in passive belief in the Gospel vs. obeying the Gospel. “Easy Believers” believe that the necessity to repent of sins is “works salvation,” while I believe that repenting of sins is not THE MERITORIOUS GROUND of salvation, but is the CONDITION of salvation. As you pointed out, God said, “This my beloved Son…obey HIM.”

  • Mishaya, I’m grateful for this post. and I agree with what you said here. Satan has a movement going on online and in churches, “Lordship Salvationists” vs. “Easy Believers.” I’ve taken quite a beating by those who subscribe to the latter belief in passive belief in the Gospel vs. obeying the Gospel, and repenting of sins NOT AS THE MERITORIOUS GROUND of salvation, but as the CONDITION of salvation.

    • The fact that obedience is shunned, speaks volumes. As horrific as the weeping and wailing and gnashing of teeth by HRC supporters on Nov 8, is nothing compared to what it will be like for the Christians when they hear these words ‘Depart from Me, you who forsake the law, I never knew you.’

  • Nice blog i like your post thank u Nice blog i like your post thank u …

  • Mishaya: I’m born of Jesus not of Paul .. Adopted into His son ship by the blood of Jesus only I couldn’t do it without God’s Grace ! You’re basically saying you don’t need Jesus when you denounce God’s Grace brother but anyway I was just making a statement about the Word of God is God Inspired no matter who wrote what book. What you say about pisteuo is right on the money though many people just think that “believe” means to just that simply believe but that’s not what Paul wrote and preached we have just Americanized Pauls words and thus reduced the message unless you do an intensive word study out of the original Greek and Hebrew

    • At this time Jaybo the whole church is in bed with Paul, most are not even familiar with the words of Yahshua. The ‘sinners prayer’ is an abomination and was never taught by the Son. The teachings of Paul are utterly irrelevant unless of course you believe that the words of Yahsua are not enough. 12 years ago I was given a vision, in that vision I saw rise up from the gospels the tree of life and I saw rise up out of the Pauline Epistles an ugly black gnarly tree, it was death. Paul’s words were never inspired by God. The Holy Spirit said ‘from now on, either you are abiding in My Word or you are not, period. I never read Paul nor study him anymore, what’s the point…he’s death to the soul. Of the many good websites out there that expose this apostate one that is among the best of the best is http://www.jesuswordsonly.com Take the time to consider that, not once does Paul ever quote Yahshua and yet Yahshua said that the Holy Spirit would remind the disciples of Yahshua’s words. Obviously Paul knew none of them and the Holy Spirit is not the author of Paul’s words.

  • Right on point!

    • Thanks for responding to that comment Uriel, I had missed that one 🙂 Now here’s something curious about that thief…here he goes to paradise and yet…the resurrection had not yet happened. No Pauline sinner’s prayer here, the thief confessed his sin which is obedience to what was taught. Again, Evan read James and try fasting Paul for next several years and everything will begin to make sense, being purged of Paul is same thing as being purged of the leaven of the Pharisees which is hypocrisy and falsehood.

      • All scripture is God breathed and useful for teaching, rebuking, correcting and training in righteous so that the man of God may be thoroughly equipped for every good work! Yes we must obey that is certainly what Jesus meant but even John the Baptist who BAPTIZED jesus said he was unworthy to untie His sandals so we all need the Grace of God everyday as Paul teaches and preaches about!

      • Jaybo, there are those born of Paul who will never see nor enter the Kingdom, and anything smacking of obedience to the Son is an anathema to them and they shall inherit the legacy of fools.

  • So if you have to obey and not simply believe, then how was the thief saved on the cross? He never had time to obey, but yet he was to be in paradise with Christ…..I think obeying comes from belief. If we belief we will then obey. If we do not belief we will then be disobedient.

    • James 2:24 addresses this matter. By works a man is justified and not by faith only.

    • For the thief on the cross to access God’s grace he performed two laws: he confessed his sin (Luke 23.41) then called upon the name of Yahshua for deliverance (Luke 23.42). These acts fulfilled two laws: repentance (Lev 4.20, 26, 31, 35; 5.10; 6.7; 1 Kings 8.47-48; Is 30.15) and calling upon the Holy name (1 Kings 8.35; 2 Chron 6.26; Rom 10.13). Yahshua made it a requirement for everybody desiring entrance into the kingdom to perform the law of repentance. Mt 3:2 “Repent, for the kingdom of heaven is at hand.” God’s grace can only be accessed through the Law. Teaching that grace is granted independent of any lawful behavior on our part contradicts God Himself.

  • Hi Mishaya:

    My name is Samuel. I’m 18 years old now, but since I was 16-17 I found the apostle Paul very contradicting. I notice he teached a doctrine very different to what Jesus and, later, James taught. This made me lose confidence in the Bible, but it too made me look for more information about the original doctrines Jesus and, later, his 12 apostles taught. Looking I found a book called The Authentic Peter: the Preaching of Simeon Kefa from the Journal of T. Flavius Clemens, “Clement” and I too found To The Children of Love and Peace: the Letter of Bar Naba which is to be found in the Codex Sinaiticus. After reading them I marveled. The two books teach obedience to the Torah and, interestingly, in The Authentic Peter in page 296 the apostle Peter writes in a letter for Ya’akov [I belief this is James]: “For some from among the Goyim [Gentiles] have rejected my Torah-observant preaching, attaching themselves to certain Torahless and trifling preaching of the MAN WHO IS MY ENEMY.” When I read this Paul came to my mind. I don’t believe in Paul as an apostle or a disciple of Jesus anymore. Actually, the book of Revelation makes reference to the 12 apostles, but there is never mentioned a 13th apostle. If Paul were authentic, he would be the 13th apostle, because Judas was already replaced by Mathias according to Acts 1:15-26. So everything points to Paul.

  • Hi There
    Yeah, the reference is at the top of the article, right beneath the title.

  • However, scholars now realize obey was a common meaning of pisteuo in ancient Greek.

    Do you have references for this statement?

    • Hi there
      Just giving it again in case you had not subscribed to further comments.

      • Whoops I read your article and also the link and still missed the reference to Strongs. I don’t have that dictionary but I looked in BDAG and a couple of others and they don’t list pisteuo as meaning obey. I’m happy that believing must include obeying (James somewhere) but I disagree that pisteuo means obey.

      • Hi Mike:
        The dictionaries he was referring to were ‘Liddel Scott’ ‘Vines’ ‘Vincent’ and quite few others, but it is a very lengthy article. However to define pisteuo as simply ‘to passively believes’ makes Yahshua contradict himself on numerous occasions where He stressed obedience to His Word. Even when The Father spoke on the Mount of Transfiguration He said ‘This is My Beloved Son, Hear ye Him.’ The word ‘hear’ in the Hebrew literally means to ‘hear and obey.’ Which is quite a ways from passively believing something yet not doing it. Yahshua says He likens the wise man to this ‘He who comes to Me hears My Word and does it.’ It’s worthless to come to Him listen to His word or teachings and then not do them.
        That’s why He says to a certain multitude ‘Depart from Me, I never knew you, you who work lawlessness.
        So that’s why ‘Pisteuo’ is far more in line with ‘obeying’ than simply believing.
        Also as you had mentioned James, I believe you were referring to James 1:18-21. James says that it is obedience to ingrafted or inborn Word of Truth that is able to save our souls. Well we already know that the Son of God is the Word of Truth.

Leave a Reply

Fill in your details below or click an icon to log in:

WordPress.com Logo

You are commenting using your WordPress.com account. Log Out / Change )

Twitter picture

You are commenting using your Twitter account. Log Out / Change )

Facebook photo

You are commenting using your Facebook account. Log Out / Change )

Google+ photo

You are commenting using your Google+ account. Log Out / Change )

Connecting to %s